Evelyn 32-2 ULDB Sailboat Forum

Hi;

I thought I'd post this here before I went to a wider audience.

I'm converting an IB E32 to an OB boat and would like to sell the Yanmar 1GM10
engine that I've pulled from her.

The engine is currently stored indoors, and is located in the northern
suburbs of Chicago.

Since I recently purchased the boat, I have limited experience with the engine,
but I was able to start it easily to winterize it. The survey of the boat mentions
that it was recently overhauled, but I don't have any details of the number
of hours on her, or what was done during the overhaul.

I would be willing to sell the engine alone, or bundled with any of the controls,
propeller, shaft, etc. depending on the interest level.

Torresen Marine (local Yanmar dealer for the midwest) suggested that the
engine should be worth about $2K.

I'll be listing the engine for sale on Craigslist and Ebay in the next month
or so, but I thought I'd give othe Evelyn owners the first crack at
it.

Thanks,
Steve
Zing!arella

Sorry I am not a customer, I don't want to buy the motor back!

I think you're going to love it with an OB, Steve. I often pondered how much more room there would be in the cabin, less diesel smell, more structure could go for the keel sump, fewer appendages for a faster boat. I mentioned this when we met. I still recommend getting remote engine controls and if it were me, despite the weight I'd look for an electric start 4 stroke OB too. I lived with an OB on my previous boat and hated the pull start through the stern pulpit routine and the two stroke smoke. I did add a hiking stick to the shifter which helped, but full shift/throttle/start controls like the Yanmar sure are nicer so you can stay on the tiller. Especially if you back into your slip.

(Losing the hokey steel rod lever and the loose controls it had was high on my list too, I hadn't fixed that yet...!)

I will always miss 'Zing!arella' and hope the best for it, I had rather looked forward to owner her longer... things happened that changed the plan. Good to hear about what is happening now!

Hi Rick!

Rolf and I have been searching for the best solution to the OB question, and
I think we've settled on this Nissan (Tohatsu) as the best all round compromise:

http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Nissan-6-hp-NSF6C4.html

Yes, it's a pull start, but it does have an external tank and an alternator for
charging batteries, as well as forward and reverse gears.

Larger motors with electric starts add about 1/2 again the
weight to the engine (60 vs. 90-100 lbs). It's also a long shaft engine, so
hopefully the prop will stay in the water most of the time...

Steve

I have the same outboard (Tohatsu model). It has been a great engine, requiring very little maintenance. And it has outlasted all of my first set of sails I bought at the same time.

Hi Matt;

Good to hear you've had such a positive experience with that Tohatsu 6 OB.

I'm a bit worried that in some of the bigger chop we can get on Lake Michigan
that it won't be big enough to push the boat along -- but it is a sailboat, so
sail it, right?

I was wondering about what mount you used on Motorboat!! for the OB.
Do you have an articulating one, or a fixed mount?

Do you remove the motor and put her below for racing?

Steve

Steve
Even without ever sailing on the Great Lakes, I would think the chop situation is similar to ours down here. Lake Pontchartrain is very shallow (~15ft avg.) and when you get a north breeze building up seas over 25 miles, the chop is steep and short, which is the only time we have ever had any problems motoring (we just end up putting everybody on the stern). I have used the motor to deliver the boat back from Pensacola FL, twice (about 200 miles each). I have the Garelick stainless retractable O/B mount. It may be a little overkill, but I prefer not to take chances. It lifts up high enough to make motor removal pretty easy. I also have a 12V plug on the stern so I can charge my battery while motoring.

As for storage while racing, we store it behind the stairs, prop forward, while racing. Keeps it out of the way, and I like the weight placement.

All this being said, we usually sail into/out of the harbor, only using the motor when we are running really late, or when the wind dies out. We just like sailing better. I will try to find a picture of our current setup for you.

Just to chime in here with some more outboard sizing info. I have an old 6 hp 2 stroke that pushes my boat at 6.5kts in flat water. I recently had a crew member lend me his 4 hp 4 stroke. I was surprised to get 6 kts out of it. The two motors weigh about the same but the 4 hp has an internal tank.

Hi Matt:

Which SS Garelick motor mount did you use? I see 3 listed on Garelick's site:

Model Vertical Travel Motor weight max
71039 14 1/4" 82 lbs
71056 11 1/4" 115 lbs
71033 11 1/4" 118 lbs

Alternatively, there are the aluminum mounts also:

71042 14 1/4" 82 lbs
71090 9 1/2" 169 lbs
71091 15 1/2" 175 lbs

Any recommendations to this newbie?

rolf

Hi Rolf
The boat originally came with the 71057, which I would not recommend. With the narrow base and arms, there is a lot of "Slop" in this mount. There were some occasions I thought the motor was going to torque itself off the bracket. I replaced it with the 71056 stainless bracket. It is a much beefier bracket that uses stainless channels instead of aluminum plate for the arms. It is a lot sturdier. If you get one of these, though, make sure you mount it as low on the transom as you possibly can. Additionally, I installed to carbon backing plates inside the transom to try and distribute the load a little more and reuce the point loading on the transom. Looking back, I wish I would have either mounted it lower, or installed the 71091. That one has 15" of vertical travel, and you need all the vertical you can get.
-Matt

Oh, one final thought. This is something I recently thought of doing but haven't implemented yet; I may re-mount the bracket using some thick rubber gaskets to try and dampen the vibration created by the engine (hopefully giving me a little quieter interior).

Thanks Matt . . .a very useful reply!!!

Regarding soundproofing . . . in addition to the rubber gasketing, you may simply want to dress the outboard up with an old neoprene wetsuit :o)

rolf