When somebody gets a new expensive boat, this happens...

[Motorboat!!]

Dear Sirs,
We are lodging a protest on the rating of Allen McMillan s boat Finesse. We feel the current rating of 105 is not warranted. Based on the following facts:

Given:
1. Finesse is well prepared, well sailed by a regular crew. The boat is dry sailed and only launched on race days. She has new or very close to new sails.
2. Finesse highly is modified, Cut out stern , reduced though hulls, relocated tanks, additional bulkheads/stringers for structural strengthening . Ect.
3. She was damaged in two different hurricanes and rebuilt to a better than new condition. Finesse is not a cobbled together hurricane damaged beater. She is in perfect condition inside and out. Allen and Neil are excellent yachtsman and spared no expense in restoring her. Smart sailors do not modify boats to slow them down. Allen and Neil are smart sailors!
4. Weight is not an issue. Finesse sails with more crew than any other boat her size. Usually going to the limit allowed on her certificate.
5. The boat is dry sailed and only launched on race days. The crew does not have access to her to practice.

Facts:

1. Compared to US Sailings national ratings Finesses rating is abnormally high.


Local ratings compared to the US Sailings National High-Low-Average Database.
Boat Type Boat Name High Average Low Adjusted GYA Difference % High % Average Adjusted Sec
EVELYN 32-2 IB Finesse 105 99 93 105 6 100 106.0606061
Trip 33 Triptonite 84 78 75 78 0 92.85714286 100
Soveral 33 MOD Coyote NA NA NA 99
Melges 32 Black Ice 33 27 24 15 -12 45.45454545 55.55555556
Melges 20 Little Wicked NA NA NA 132
J105 ForeRunner 90 84 78 84 0 93.33333333 100
Tarten 10 Polish Navy 240 129 123 132 3 55 102.3255814
Trip 26 Radio Flyer 126 120 108 120 0 95.23809524 100
Beneteau 36.7 Atlantic Union 84 75 72 78 3 92.85714286 104
Eliliot 770 MOD 114 Rodent 114 111 108 111 0 97.36842105 100 -3
Pearson 10M RF Reach around 156 147 141 147 0 94.23076923 100 -6
C&C 35-3 CB Roka Dobi 144 129 120 135 6 93.75 104.6511628
J111 Not Named 42 39 29 36 -3 85.71428571 92.30769231
J 29 Rush 125 114 108 114 0 91.2 100
TARTAN 37-2,RF Kanaloa 150 132 126 147 15 98 111.3636364 -6


This chart shows that the GYA tends to rate light boats below average and heavy boats above average. This seems fair for this area as most races are still won by lighter race boats. Finesse, being a very light boat stands out as the anomaly. Rating 106% of average and 100 % of high.

2. Finesse wins in all conditions and wind strengths. Phrf is a one number system and every dog should have it s day. We should question any boat that seems to be dominate in all conditions. Light planning boats kill in heavy air but struggle in 10 to 12. Lowering Finesse s rating six seconds does not change the bay results for the year. Further showing incorrectness of her rating.

Super Bowl Regatta
Pensacola Yacht Club | January 22, 2011
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Series Standing - 1 races scored
Information is final.
Regatta results last updated: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:14:12 PM CDT
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Sail Boat Skipper Corrected 1 Total Pos
40751 Cjoyote Margo Partain Zern 00:30:56 1 1 1
52088 Finesse Alan McMillan 00:31:46 2 2 2
61 Tenacious Harrison Prochaska 00:33:03 3 3 3
13303 Reach-Around Jeffory S. Hunt 00:33:33 4 4 4
122 Black Ice Jason Knoll 00:33:34 5 5 5
57 Average White Boat Susan McKinnon 00:33:39 6 6 6
120 a little wicked George Gamble 00:33:51 7 7 7
22205 KANALOA MIKE BEARD 00:34:54 8 8 8











Mardi Gras Regatta
Pensacola Yacht Club | February 05, 2011
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Series Standing - 1 races scored
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Regatta results last updated: Saturday, February 05, 2011 3:15:58 PM CDT
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Division: (6 boats)
Sail Boat Skipper Yacht Club Corrected 1 Total Pos
52088 Finesse Alan McMillan PYC 01:05:35 1 1 1
122 blackice John Knoll pyc 01:06:19 2 2 2
709 Atlantic Union Paul Gillette Pensacola Yacht Club 01:09:05 3 3 3
40751 Coyote Rick Zern PYC 01:09:30 4 4 4
13303 The Reach Around Jeffory S. Hunt PYC /PBYC 01:20:48 5 5 5
22205 KANALOA MIKE BEARD PYC 01:23:04 6 6 6










Maxine #3 Regatta
Pensacola Yacht Club | March 19, 2011
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Series Standing - 1 races scored
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Regatta results last updated: Sunday, March 20, 2011 9:51:05 AM CDT
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Sail Boat Skipper Yacht Club Corrected 1 Total Pos
52088 Finesse Alan McMillan PYC 01:50:46 1 1 1
46242 trippasaurus rex robert patroni pyc 01:51:29 2 2 2
83123 tripptonite david dunbar pbyc 01:51:57 3 3 3
40751 Coyote Rick Zern PYC 01:56:05 4 4 4
709 Atlantic Union Paul Gillette Pensacola Yacht Club 01:56:42 5 5 5
122 Black Ice John Knoll Pensacola YC 01:57:34 6 6 6





NYCP
File: Maxine # 1.rcw
Class: Spinnaker. PHRF (Time on distance)
# 1
Start Time: Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:00:00: Distance 11.28
Pos Order Sail Boat Skipper PHRF Finish Elapsed Corrected Score Division
1 3 52088 Finesse McMillan,Alan 105 14:14:58 02:14:58 01:55:14 1 A
2 2 83123 Triptonite Dunbar,George 78 14:11:57 02:11:57 01:57:17 2 A
3 6 32463 Antares Walt Wilde,Murt Guild 150 14:28:06 02:28:06 01:59:54 3 B
4 4 40751 Coyote Zern,Rick 102 14:20:03 02:20:03 02:00:52 4 A
5 5 462420 Trippasaurus Rex Patroni,Bob 120 14:23:41 02:23:41 02:01:07 5 A
6 8 13303 Reach Around Hunt,Jeff 156 14:30:48 02:30:48 02:01:28 6 B
7 7 22205 Kanaloa Beard,Mike 153 14:30:30 02:30:30 02:01:44 7 B
8 9 120 A Little Wicked 132 14:33:26 02:33:26 02:08:37 8 A
9 10 10 Sea Breeze Owczarczak,Dan 171 14:44:59 02:44:59 02:12:50 9 B
DNF 1 114 Sea Toy Two Mundy,John 189 11 B

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Speed as VMG of winning boat: 5.0 knots


Cancer Society Regatta
Pensacola Yacht Club | June 04, 2011
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Regatta results last updated: Saturday, June 04, 2011 7:30:42 PM CDT
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Division: A (5 boats)
Sail Boat Skipper Yacht Club Corrected 1 Total Pos
52088 Finesse alan mcmillan [A] pyc 02:53:14 1 1 1
83123 tripptonite david dunbar [A] pbyc 02:59:00 2 2 2
32087 Blue Buddha Bob patroni [A] pyc 03:00:53 4 4 3
40751 Coyote Richard Zern [A] Pensacola Y C 03:04:12 7 7 4
122 Black Ice John Knoll [A] Pensacola YC 03:05:26 8 8 5



Conclusions:

We feel a fair base rating for Finesse would be 99, less 3 seconds for modifications giving a net rating of 96. Given this rating she would still be highly competitive wining most races or finishing in the top three.

Sincerely
George Gamble, Little Wicked,
Hunter Riddle, Rodent
Rick Zern, Coyote
David Dunbar, Triptonite
Paul Gillette, Atlantic Union
Jason Knolles, Black Ice
John Mathes, Forerunner
Jeff Hunt, Reach Around
Bob patrony

zernrigging@gmail.com

[Pterobyte]

Dear Sirs,
We are lodging a protest on the rating of Allen McMillan s boat Finesse. We feel the current rating of 105 is not warranted. Based on the following facts:

Politics palitics... Is this the same Alan McMillen that is a member of the board of handicappers? lets us know how you do?

[Motorboat!!]

The same. I have seen his boat a few times after racing ours to Pensacola, and it is in perfect condition with perfect sails. Makes mine look pretty bad. I just think it is funny how a couple of guys in Pensacola can't beat him so they want to affect my rating too. Their arguments make no sense at all. Also they only reference his results and not the other gulf coast E32 results, which would show that we are very competitive with other boats in our rating band.

[muchmsw]

... I just think it is funny how a couple of guys in Pensacola can't beat him so they want to affect my rating too.

Matt;

What is your PHRF?

Blitzkrieg and I are anticipating a 96, I think -- short E, OB boats, from
LMPHRF. The other E 32-2 with a PHRF on Lake Michigan is a 102 (Silver Arrow)
but I think it's an IB boat.

105 seems a tad high but not excessive, especially if Finesse is an IB version.

Steve
Zing!

[Pterobyte]

They will look at this data from 'the book'. Getting a rating changed on their appeal is not likely. There have been too many boats with too much history. Everything they argue is moot except the transom mod and they did not focus on that. I suspect the they might be successful if they focus on the mod and any other mods they made to make the boat lighter. Even then it would should only impact that boat. Bluto's rating has not hurt any of us yet.

[Motorboat!!]

We rate 99 with the O/B. I just find much of there argument funny, and not really much of an argument at all. They said that he has a boat in perfect condition, with great sails, and an experienced crew. I am pretty sure that is all within the regulations specified by PHRF. Having seen the boat, it would be very difficult to argue the open transom creates any advantage. It looks good though.

[admin]

I have to say with relatively high level of confidence that PHRF of the Chesapeake would get a chuckle out of that rating adjustment request.

Basically, the people requesting the rating adjustment are saying if you come to the race course prepared (with a high level of preparation, that is) you should be penalized! wot? sheesh.

On the other hand, 105 does sound like a bit of a gift.

If it were me, I'd get rid the "he has new sails and stuff" argument and just show the PHRF rating committee all the other valid ratings from around the different regions.

Actually, if it were me I'd forget about it and just race ;-)

[Pterobyte]

Chesapeake has three IBs at 99. Gulf has 2 at 105. There is a lot of relativity going on too.
Chesapeake has the J35 at 72 and Gulf PHRF has it at 75.

But you are absolutely correct; sour grapes. rotflmao ..... .. ... m